Die Laverda-BMW GS

This frame was the one in the background of the display in Staffordshire Classic Bike and Mechanic?

Even if 'BMW had no expertice to build the requestet Enduro' is a little cheeky - further informations on their page: Laverda BMW GS Prototype | malarkey-engineering; and: the original had a 17" rear wheel.

Lovely stuff

Ernie
 
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This frame was the one in the background of the display in Staffordshire Classic Bike and Mechanic?

Even if 'BMW had no expertice to build the requestet Enduro' is a little cheeky - further informations on their page: Laverda BMW GS Prototype | malarkey-engineering; and: the original had a 17" rear wheel.

Lovely stuff

Ernie
Hi Ernie, not sure if I quite understand but I think Metal Malarkey's point is that while BMW had people like Schek building there own bikes from scavenged BMW parts, the company at the time was a bureaucratic mess, on the verge of bankruptcy and without the expertise to prototype framesets, let alone quickly build a prototype off-roader to show to their American importer. Laverda on the other hand had Verlicchi who could build a frameset in a day as well as a proven record in off road models, ie Chott, 2TR7, LH models, Husqvarna collaboration etc etc.
 
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Hi Ernie, not sure if I quite understand but I think Metal Malarkey's point is that while BMW had people like Schek building there own bikes from scavenged BMW parts the company at the time was a bureaucratic mess, on the verge of bankruptcy and without the expertise to prototype framesets, let alone quickly build a prototype off-roader to show to their American importer. Laverda on the other hand had Verlicchi who could build a frameset in a day as well as a proven record in off road models, ie Chott, 2TR7, LH models, Husqvarna collaboration etc etc.
Sorry I forgot to mention the Laverda prototype was sent to BMW with an 18'' rear wheel. BMW tried it with a 17'' which probably wasn't a great idea given the geometry but it was always designed around an 18''.
 
No need to Argument - like said before, its gorgeous. Do you have access to the book 'Boxer - BMW Geländesport von 1926 bis 2006'? Maybe the first publication to set some things right in that case. It seemed to bee a parallel Evolution... and my heart admires Breganze machinery at least as much as Bimm's.

It is too sad they wrecked the originals, so your project alongside the series based conversions and the Evum replicas has at least the same right to exist, and is more than welcome. And - I always asked myself how a frame with those wide loops will 'do' compared to that very tight bundled BM package - you might be able to tell us ;;-)

 Bertl
 
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No need to Argument - like said before, its gorgeous. Do you have access to the book 'Boxer - BMW Geländesport von 1926 bis 2006'? Maybe the first publication to set some things right in that case. It seemed to bee a parallel Evolution... and my heart admires Breganze machinery at least as much as Bimm's.

It is too sad they wrecked the originals, so your project alongside the series based conversions and the Evum replicas has at least the same right to exist, and is more than welcome. And - I always asked myself how a frame with those wide loops will 'do' compared to that very tight bundled BM package - you might be able to tell us ;;-)

 Bertl
I'm very sorry if it came across as an argument, I was just trying to explain the process which led to my creation.
It is indeed a shame the originals were destroyed but I understand why and appreciate the logic of why BMW went with an in-house design and G/S rather than enduro/ISDT approach Laverda promoted. In the end it was a great decision by BMW, G/S becoming a best seller and saving the motorcycle division.
 
Ich habe noch ein Detail von der oberen Federbeinaufnahme gefunden. Sie ist leicht aus der Mitte versetzt, um Platz für den Auspuff zu machen:

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Gruß

Werner
 
Ich habe noch ein Detail von der oberen Federbeinaufnahme gefunden. Sie ist leicht aus der Mitte versetzt, um Platz für den Auspuff zu machen:

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Gruß

Werner
That's a very interesting picture thanks for posting and if you have any more I'd love to see them. If anyone is interested, last year Sandro Todeschini kindly sketched out the rear spring arrangement to help us with this project and I'm sure he would not mind me sharing it here

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Hello,

it's great to see this peace of technical heritage coming to live! Thank you very much for your enthusiasm and endurance on this project, which is in fact an important link in the story of the G/S and the BMW Bikes at all.

Thank you also very much for having it shared here within the forum!

Sweaty regards from the southwest of Germany, Thomas!
 
Ein paar Worte von mir noch dazu: Ich fuhr 1975 Laverda und war zu einem Treffen ins Werk in Breganze eingeladen. War ein tolles Treffen mit der gesamten Familie Laverda, Dottore Francesco Laverda und seine Söhne Massimo und Piero und dazu jede Menge neue und alte Motorräder, u.a. die 6 Zylinder Langstreckenrennmaschine (die angeblich erst später gebaut wurde, nein, es gab sie schon 1975...) die damals noch nicht vorgestellte 500er und auch Prototypen für den Geländesport. Mein Interesse dafür war damals eher gering, aber ich erinnere mich eine Zündapp im Laverdarahmen und eine BMW im Laverdarahmen. Ernsthaft schon 1975. Leider habe ich keine Fotos davon gemacht.
 
Hallo Detlev,

evtl. erinnerst du dich da richtig.

Im Zuge der Nachforschungen bei den Laverda-Leuten kam ein älterer Umbau ans Licht, der vermutlich 1976 im Auftrag von H.G. von der Marwitz an Massimo Laverda entstanden ist, also noch vor dem Auftrag für die 2 oder 3 Maschinen aus Ende 1977/Anfang 1978, die im Thema hier besprochen werden. Hier Bilder aus dem Netz von einer Ausstellung aus 2010:

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Vielleicht kommt dir die Maschine ja bekannt vor. Die Lampenmaske sah damals sicherlich anders aus, die verbaute gab es erst in den 80er Jahren. Der Tank stammt von der Laverda 250 Chott, evtl. waren damals auch andere Kotflügel montiert. Bin gespannt, was du noch erinnern kannst.

In Zusammenarbeit mit Zündapp ist ja die Laverda LZ 125 entstanden, die aber wohl erst 1977 auf den Markt kam.

Bist du dir ganz sicher, dass dein Besuch in Breganze in 1975 war oder kann das auch 1976 gewesen sein?

Gruß

Werner
 
Bist du dir ganz sicher, dass dein Besuch in Breganze in 1975 war oder kann das auch 1976 gewesen sein?

Gruß

Werner
Moin Werner, ja, ganz sicher 1975, ich schätze mal im Juni oder Juli, im August musste ich meine Laverda 750SF2 leider mangels "Masse" wieder verkaufen weil im September mein Studium begann. Ich müsste mal meine alten Dias durchschauen, vielleicht ist da ja doch noch was bei.
 
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